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		<title>Comment on &#8220;2012&#8243; and the Poet&#8217;s Dilemma by Warren</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=6#comment-265</link>
		<author>Warren</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as great or interesting artists in respect to planetary evolution, I would start with Velimir Khlebnikov. There is a striking amount of common ground between what he intuited and attempted to accomplish with social justice-driven "transrational language" and what McKenna, Pinchbeck, et al. are working towards today.

The scholarship on his life and works is limited and relatively obscurely tucked away, but there is a TREMENDOUS wealth of lessons and ideas in studying him with regard to these current visions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as great or interesting artists in respect to planetary evolution, I would start with Velimir Khlebnikov. There is a striking amount of common ground between what he intuited and attempted to accomplish with social justice-driven &#8220;transrational language&#8221; and what McKenna, Pinchbeck, et al. are working towards today.</p>
<p>The scholarship on his life and works is limited and relatively obscurely tucked away, but there is a TREMENDOUS wealth of lessons and ideas in studying him with regard to these current visions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Almighty Amero by Andrés Hax</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=7#comment-56</link>
		<author>Andrés Hax</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if within that window of opportunity, before the tipping point, technology will make an autonomous leap and begin to function independently from humankinds volition?

Thinking along these lines, but not necessarily espousing this thesis, is Kevin Kelly in his work in progress The Technium: http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/

See, in particular, the posts that question the possibility of Artificial Intelligence attaining a sense of spirituality:

Holy Technology

http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2007/10/holy_technology.php

Will Spiritual Robots Replace Humanity by 2100?

http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2006/03/will_spiritual.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if within that window of opportunity, before the tipping point, technology will make an autonomous leap and begin to function independently from humankinds volition?</p>
<p>Thinking along these lines, but not necessarily espousing this thesis, is Kevin Kelly in his work in progress The Technium: <a href="http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/</a></p>
<p>See, in particular, the posts that question the possibility of Artificial Intelligence attaining a sense of spirituality:</p>
<p>Holy Technology</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2007/10/holy_technology.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2007/10/holy_technology.php</a></p>
<p>Will Spiritual Robots Replace Humanity by 2100?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2006/03/will_spiritual.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2006/03/will_spiritual.php</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;2012&#8243; and the Poet&#8217;s Dilemma by Morgan</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=6#comment-30</link>
		<author>Morgan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=6#comment-30</guid>
		<description>Hi Daniel,

I agree that most of what is described as art these days is a tired repetition or perhaps someones self-fullfilling stab in the dark.

But reading this post I can't help but recall this passage from Terence McKenna:

"So it leads then to the question, "where do we put our own lives in all of this?" And I think that the answer -- and this comes out of a long involvement with psychedelics and with the Image per se (and for me the psychedelics were always the way to get into the realm of the images) -- the obligation on all of us, I think, is to use this medium, these new forms of media, and produce art, furiously. That's what it's all for. That's what liberation really means: it isn't permission to jog. It's permission to create!

The obligation that rests upon everybody in this room -- and the poorest and most twisted among us still probably falls in the upper 5% percent of people on this Earth in terms of opportunity, disposable income, access to resources, so forth and so on -- the way to redeem this exclusivity is to push the art pedal to the floor."

http://www.levity.com/eschaton/talks/042596.html

Who would you consider (contemporary or otherwise) as great or interesting or effective artists in respect to planetary evolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>I agree that most of what is described as art these days is a tired repetition or perhaps someones self-fullfilling stab in the dark.</p>
<p>But reading this post I can&#8217;t help but recall this passage from Terence McKenna:</p>
<p>&#8220;So it leads then to the question, &#8220;where do we put our own lives in all of this?&#8221; And I think that the answer &#8212; and this comes out of a long involvement with psychedelics and with the Image per se (and for me the psychedelics were always the way to get into the realm of the images) &#8212; the obligation on all of us, I think, is to use this medium, these new forms of media, and produce art, furiously. That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all for. That&#8217;s what liberation really means: it isn&#8217;t permission to jog. It&#8217;s permission to create!</p>
<p>The obligation that rests upon everybody in this room &#8212; and the poorest and most twisted among us still probably falls in the upper 5% percent of people on this Earth in terms of opportunity, disposable income, access to resources, so forth and so on &#8212; the way to redeem this exclusivity is to push the art pedal to the floor.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.levity.com/eschaton/talks/042596.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.levity.com/eschaton/talks/042596.html</a></p>
<p>Who would you consider (contemporary or otherwise) as great or interesting or effective artists in respect to planetary evolution?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on Burning Man by jean hollman</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=3#comment-18</link>
		<author>jean hollman</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=3#comment-18</guid>
		<description>the internet can be obstructed, and sometime speak in chicago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the internet can be obstructed, and sometime speak in chicago</p>
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		<title>Comment on System Transformation by Wahoo</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=4#comment-17</link>
		<author>Wahoo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=4#comment-17</guid>
		<description>Thank you for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alien Dreamtime: My Fight With Whitley Strieber by Russell</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=5#comment-11</link>
		<author>Russell</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=5#comment-11</guid>
		<description>yo... second that... i think. As some dude once said, a long time ago, objects and subjects are not as real as we like to think they are, but neither are they totally not real... the paradox of relativity (philosophical, not necessarily Einsteinian) is that our experience of reality arises dependently, on subjects (perceivers), objects (of perception)... and the space that seperates the "two". The realisation that 'ultimately' everything is lacking any Real reality in and of its own, doesn't necessarily collapse our experience of relative reality... although perhaps we come to see that our perception of self (the infamous Ego) is not quite as important as we once thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo&#8230; second that&#8230; i think. As some dude once said, a long time ago, objects and subjects are not as real as we like to think they are, but neither are they totally not real&#8230; the paradox of relativity (philosophical, not necessarily Einsteinian) is that our experience of reality arises dependently, on subjects (perceivers), objects (of perception)&#8230; and the space that seperates the &#8220;two&#8221;. The realisation that &#8216;ultimately&#8217; everything is lacking any Real reality in and of its own, doesn&#8217;t necessarily collapse our experience of relative reality&#8230; although perhaps we come to see that our perception of self (the infamous Ego) is not quite as important as we once thought.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alien Dreamtime: My Fight With Whitley Strieber by Darren Jones</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=5#comment-7</link>
		<author>Darren Jones</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=5#comment-7</guid>
		<description>I find that those who feel cornered by the truth behind their fears will most likely attempt to self protect.

In the flavor of self protection exhibited by Whitley, his fear of loss seams connected to his source of personal power. We all build our comfortable reality constructs based on familiarity, and this can take any form, be it a belief, a way of living, or a radio show.

During the interview, Whitley’s power spot, his show, books, and experiences, were threatened by what to him is a radical and dangerous shift in our way of looking at our future, and this angle of perception is held by too many.

Whitley believes what he stood by in this argument, and Daniel respected him with more patience than he deserved. The basic understanding and repeated points were needed for the simple fact of there importance, and anger and frustration were the honest and most useful emotions to provide the energy to Daniel at that point in time.
After all, why would anyone want to project more fear into the many one of our collective at this point in the cycle?

What would help Whitley to let all of it go and reassess his past experiences?

He has a voice that many listen too and believe. If he were to find his power to move his assemblage point, his intent would transform from fear to love, or so I hope.

There is no need for Whitley to change his beliefs or the format of his media sense, and if he is concerned about our "die off", then his intent would shift towards averting or lessoning the possibility, if for no other reason then to save his own behind. He would then be projecting a positive message by taking responsibility for his influence on his listeners’ fears as well.

This would be my words for Whitley. That he looks inward and yet again reassess his experiences and projections towards the positive, if for only a trial period.  That he turns his influence outward to other writers and speakers who would expand their positivistic messages through their media outlets as well.

I want to understand fear in this world as a study because I see its effects on our evolution. 

The submersive experience provided by certain sacraments can certainly show us how to shift our assemblage point, but this need not be the only method. The answer to this issue, and it remains an issue as long as the negative dark energy is being fed, is to do something about it.

Every one who is able to type a short message, or pick up the phone and call in during his show can get this done.

The approach should be based on love and care, with a message of respect and empathy, positive power and control of ego. Daniel worked hard to help him see this basic point, and in the process was the primer for the beginning of those ever important cracks in Whitley’s head, so let’s pry them open with strong intent and with strong love.

We should approach everyone we meet and know who projects negativity into the pubic mindset and apply the same approach, or any approach that works.

I will write him after this post.

Darren Jones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that those who feel cornered by the truth behind their fears will most likely attempt to self protect.</p>
<p>In the flavor of self protection exhibited by Whitley, his fear of loss seams connected to his source of personal power. We all build our comfortable reality constructs based on familiarity, and this can take any form, be it a belief, a way of living, or a radio show.</p>
<p>During the interview, Whitley’s power spot, his show, books, and experiences, were threatened by what to him is a radical and dangerous shift in our way of looking at our future, and this angle of perception is held by too many.</p>
<p>Whitley believes what he stood by in this argument, and Daniel respected him with more patience than he deserved. The basic understanding and repeated points were needed for the simple fact of there importance, and anger and frustration were the honest and most useful emotions to provide the energy to Daniel at that point in time.<br />
After all, why would anyone want to project more fear into the many one of our collective at this point in the cycle?</p>
<p>What would help Whitley to let all of it go and reassess his past experiences?</p>
<p>He has a voice that many listen too and believe. If he were to find his power to move his assemblage point, his intent would transform from fear to love, or so I hope.</p>
<p>There is no need for Whitley to change his beliefs or the format of his media sense, and if he is concerned about our &#8220;die off&#8221;, then his intent would shift towards averting or lessoning the possibility, if for no other reason then to save his own behind. He would then be projecting a positive message by taking responsibility for his influence on his listeners’ fears as well.</p>
<p>This would be my words for Whitley. That he looks inward and yet again reassess his experiences and projections towards the positive, if for only a trial period.  That he turns his influence outward to other writers and speakers who would expand their positivistic messages through their media outlets as well.</p>
<p>I want to understand fear in this world as a study because I see its effects on our evolution. </p>
<p>The submersive experience provided by certain sacraments can certainly show us how to shift our assemblage point, but this need not be the only method. The answer to this issue, and it remains an issue as long as the negative dark energy is being fed, is to do something about it.</p>
<p>Every one who is able to type a short message, or pick up the phone and call in during his show can get this done.</p>
<p>The approach should be based on love and care, with a message of respect and empathy, positive power and control of ego. Daniel worked hard to help him see this basic point, and in the process was the primer for the beginning of those ever important cracks in Whitley’s head, so let’s pry them open with strong intent and with strong love.</p>
<p>We should approach everyone we meet and know who projects negativity into the pubic mindset and apply the same approach, or any approach that works.</p>
<p>I will write him after this post.</p>
<p>Darren Jones</p>
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		<title>Comment on System Transformation by Daniel</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=4#comment-6</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 07:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=4#comment-6</guid>
		<description>I couldn't understand some parts of this article System Transformation, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article System Transformation, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on System Transformation by Aldo</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=4#comment-5</link>
		<author>Aldo</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=4#comment-5</guid>
		<description>Good stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alien Dreamtime: My Fight With Whitley Strieber by Randall Libero</title>
		<link>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=5#comment-4</link>
		<author>Randall Libero</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.2012thebook.com/?p=5#comment-4</guid>
		<description>Daniel - yes, positive change is where it's at and you are right on to put WS in his place. I built a whole internet around the positive change concept 7thWaveNetwork.com - and was inspired by the dark trappings of Coast/Art Bell to create a upbeat alternative. 

Perhaps you would like to be a guest on some of the channel's shows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel - yes, positive change is where it&#8217;s at and you are right on to put WS in his place. I built a whole internet around the positive change concept 7thWaveNetwork.com - and was inspired by the dark trappings of Coast/Art Bell to create a upbeat alternative. </p>
<p>Perhaps you would like to be a guest on some of the channel&#8217;s shows?</p>
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